INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q9550

markS

25.09.2020

Quote from: Mark S. on September 18, 2020, 11:42:35 Quote from: Mark S. on September 18, 2020, 11:42:35 AMD laptop wasn't 15W. It was nominally 15W TDP but the power usage was close to 30W. The tiger lake was fixed at 15W artificially by only supplying 15W power. I love AMD and glad that they brought much needed competition in the market, but we have to accept tiger lake single threaded CPU and Xe GPU is far superior than what AMD is offering for thin and light laptops. I hope that will change in future. But for now that's the reality.

_MT_

19.09.2020

Quote from: Mark S. on September 18, 2020, 11:42:35 Quote from: Mark S. on September 18, 2020, 11:42:35 The thing is that laptops with 15 W TDP Intel chips very often run in the higher TDP configuration. Just look around. So, testing the 28 W configuration is very realistic. And it was done in a realistic chassis. It wasn't a development board with a massive cooler where the data would be completely useless. In the end, the result will depend on the laptop. Just like in the past.

sigh

19.09.2020

Renoir 15W doesn't exist by how AMD defines TDP as some wishwashy temperature based limit. The Slim 7 4800U in "15W" mode boosts to 30W for 5 minutes and settles at 22W. 15W PL1 Tiger Lake is 15W electrical package power, period. If you cannot accept this data from Anandtech, you are an AMD fanboy.

Mark S.

18.09.2020

Tomshardware has also tested this at 15W, and then the results are simply incremental over previous 15w 4c/8t designs from intel. The GPU performance is just behind Renoir at that power, so at least that is an improvement. When you run this at 28W or higher, you are in the envelope of higher TDP CPUs. Try running 10300H at the same envelope and then you see that Tiger Lake is not impressive at all. Funny how there are comments that call you an AMD fanboy if you believe the review is biased. Pity you don't have data to back it up. NBC won't stop whoring up. Wish you a pleasant day.

butzke

18.09.2020

The whining of the AMD fanboys is pathetic

_MT_

18.09.2020

Quote from: STOP45%NTSC on September 17, 2020, 23:54:15 Quote from: STOP45%NTSC on September 17, 2020, 23:54:15 Have you actually looked? Scores for the 15 W configuration are in most tests. At least I saw them there. As per NBC news, 45 W TGL-H CPUs should have 32 execution units rather than 96. I guess that's "G1." 35 W TGL-H, which should be only available as 4 core, should have 96 execution units.

_MT_

18.09.2020

Quote from: Artemis on September 17, 2020, 16:41:21 Quote from: Artemis on September 17, 2020, 16:41:21 Actually, IIRC, it said that it can beat MX350 and can be closer to MX450, but not always. It could be because the drivers aren't optimized for that game (Nvidia definitely has an edge in the driver department). But you could also simply be memory bound. One advantage of a dedicated GPU is dedicated VRAM.

Patrick66

18.09.2020

So this is an U chip that means that it will get around 15-18w in an chassi like the thinkpad t14s, it could get 50w+ for a few seconds but in an thin and light thermal soon kicks in. Lets compare blender! At 15w the intel finishes at 745 seconds wait what? At 18w in the t14s it finishes in 367 seconds. Unfair you say becuse the amd has 3 more watts, lets the tie the arms of the amd cpu buy giving intel 28w. hmm 545 seconds hmm still not working. Okay tie the arms and legs and give intel 35w, 513 seconds still not working. If they would just have given it 60w I´m sure it would have been equal.

sigh

18.09.2020

Notebookcheck included the 4800U Yoga that pulls 50W on the entire system in the charts. Why are you whining?